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Amalgamation desert [message #525090]

Sat, 03 May 2008 20:05

Giovanni

Messages: 32
Registered: July 2009

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This ng is like a desert...
I don't know well all Eclipse projects, but for me amalgamation means this:

With EMF I would like to create the model of my entities (e.g. customer,
order, etc.) and the model of the GUI (maybe with GMF) to managed this
entities (the navigator to see order, subset of them -filters- and forms to
perform CRUD).

Then a wizard will used this model to create the necessary tables in a DB
and the client and server application code.

You could choose between RCP or RAP.

Other probably involved projects: Eclipselink / Teneo, Riena, ...

I hope this is the common desire of all programmers tired to reinvent the
wheel everytime need to write a DB client application.

Bye

Giovanni

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Re: Amalgamation desert [message #525091 is a reply to message #525090]

Sat, 03 May 2008 20:21

Ed Merks

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Giovanni,

Comments below.

Giovanni wrote:
> This ng is like a desert...
> I don't know well all Eclipse projects, but for me amalgamation means this:
>
> With EMF I would like to create the model of my entities (e.g. customer,
> order, etc.) and the model of the GUI (maybe with GMF) to managed this
> entities (the navigator to see order, subset of them -filters- and forms to
> perform CRUD).
>
There are lots of interesting things in the works. The Ecore Tools
project in EMFT is helping to turn the example GMF graphical Ecore
editor into a friendly and usable tool. I'm expecting Jim van Dam and
Yves Yang to propose a component related to the idea of Intentional UI
Modeling:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=56
<http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=56>

EMF 2.4 has integration with JFace's data binding to help with forms
support. And of course GMF already lets you create very sexy graphical
editors.
> Then a wizard will used this model to create the necessary tables in a DB
> and the client and server application code.
>
Martin's http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo component is just getting off the
ground. And Thiago is ready to commit code to kick off the Servus
component in the coming week(s):

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html

> You could choose between RCP or RAP.
>
I've been prototyping RAP and eRCP support

213988 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=213988>
215378 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378>

> Other probably involved projects: Eclipselink / Teneo, Riena, ...
>
The EclipseLink guys are working with Martin to so that Teneo will
support EclipseLink...
> I hope this is the common desire of all programmers tired to reinvent the
> wheel everytime need to write a DB client application.
>
Some programmers will never tire from reinventing the wheel unfortunately:

http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html

Fortunately you don't need to be one of them. The M7 modeling package
should be available in a week or so:
<http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/>

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/

> Bye
>
> Giovanni
>
>
>

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Giovanni,<br>
<br>
Comments below.<br>
<br>
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Giovanni wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">This ng is like a desert...
I don't know well all Eclipse projects, but for me amalgamation means this:

With EMF I would like to create the model of my entities (e.g. customer,
order, etc.) and the model of the GUI (maybe with GMF) to managed this
entities (the navigator to see order, subset of them -filters- and forms to
perform CRUD).
</pre>
</blockquote>
There are lots of interesting things in the works.  The Ecore Tools
project in EMFT is helping to turn the example GMF graphical Ecore
editor into a friendly and usable tool.  I'm expecting Jim van Dam and
Yves Yang to propose a component related to the idea of Intentional UI
Modeling:<br>
<blockquote><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=56">http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=56</a><br>
</blockquote>
EMF 2.4 has integration with JFace's data binding to help with forms
support.  And of course GMF already lets you create very sexy graphical
editors.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Then a wizard will used this model to create the necessary tables in a DB
and the client and server application code.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Martin's  <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo">http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo</a>
component is just getting off the ground. And Thiago is ready to commit
code to kick off the Servus component in the coming week(s):<br>
<blockquote><a
href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
You could choose between RCP or RAP.
</pre>
</blockquote>
I've been prototyping RAP and eRCP support<br>
<blockquote><a name="b213988"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=213988">213988</a><br>
<a name="b215378"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215378">215378</a><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Other probably involved projects: Eclipselink / Teneo, Riena, ...
</pre>
</blockquote>
The EclipseLink guys are working with Martin to so that Teneo will
support EclipseLink...<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
I hope this is the common desire of all programmers tired to reinvent the
wheel everytime need to write a DB client application.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Some programmers will never tire from reinventing the wheel
unfortunately:<br>
<blockquote><a
href=" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html"> http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html</a><br>
</blockquote>
Fortunately you don't need to be one of them.  The M7 modeling package
should be available in a week or so:<a
href="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/"><br>
</a>
<blockquote><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/">http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/</a><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote cite="mid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Bye

Giovanni

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Re: Amalgamation desert [message #525092 is a reply to message #525091]

Sun, 04 May 2008 21:16

Giovanni

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Registered: July 2009

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Ok there is a lot in progress, I will wait for it. (I'm waiting for =
RAPified GMF too)

Thank you Ed, we have started the first thread in this ng.

Ciao

Giovanni
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> ha scritto nel messaggio =
news:fvihec$jd0$1@build.eclipse.org...
Giovanni,

Comments below.

Giovanni wrote:=20
This ng is like a desert...
I don't know well all Eclipse projects, but for me amalgamation means =
this:

With EMF I would like to create the model of my entities (e.g. customer, =

order, etc.) and the model of the GUI (maybe with GMF) to managed this=20
entities (the navigator to see order, subset of them -filters- and forms =
to=20
perform CRUD).
There are lots of interesting things in the works. The Ecore Tools =
project in EMFT is helping to turn the example GMF graphical Ecore =
editor into a friendly and usable tool. I'm expecting Jim van Dam and =
Yves Yang to propose a component related to the idea of Intentional UI =
Modeling:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=3Dsub/&id=3D56

EMF 2.4 has integration with JFace's data binding to help with forms =
support. And of course GMF already lets you create very sexy graphical =
editors.

Then a wizard will used this model to create the necessary tables in a =
DB=20
and the client and server application code.
Martin's http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo component is just getting off =
the ground. And Thiago is ready to commit code to kick off the Servus =
component in the coming week(s):

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html

You could choose between RCP or RAP.
I've been prototyping RAP and eRCP support

213988
215378

Other probably involved projects: Eclipselink / Teneo, Riena, ...
The EclipseLink guys are working with Martin to so that Teneo will =
support EclipseLink...

I hope this is the common desire of all programmers tired to reinvent =
the=20
wheel everytime need to write a DB client application.
Some programmers will never tire from reinventing the wheel =
unfortunately:

http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html

Fortunately you don't need to be one of them. The M7 modeling package =
should be available in a week or so:

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/

Bye

Giovanni=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok there is a lot in progress, I will =
wait for it.=20
(I'm waiting for RAPified GMF too)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Ed, we have started the first =
thread in=20
this ng.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ciao</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Giovanni</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Ed Merks" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com">merks@ca.ibm.com</A>>=20
ha scritto nel messaggio <A=20
=
href=3D"news:fvihec$jd0$1@build.eclipse.org">news:fvihec$jd0$1@build.ecli=
pse.org</A>...</DIV>Giovanni,<BR><BR>Comments=20
below.<BR><BR><BR>Giovanni wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">This ng is like a desert...
I don't know well all Eclipse projects, but for me amalgamation means =
this:

With EMF I would like to create the model of my entities (e.g. customer, =

order, etc.) and the model of the GUI (maybe with GMF) to managed this=20
entities (the navigator to see order, subset of them -filters- and forms =
to=20
perform CRUD).
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>There are lots of interesting things in the =
works. =20
The Ecore Tools project in EMFT is helping to turn the example GMF =
graphical=20
Ecore editor into a friendly and usable tool.  I'm expecting Jim =
van Dam=20
and Yves Yang to propose a component related to the idea of =
Intentional UI=20
Modeling:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=3Dsub/&id=3D56">http://w=
ww.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=3Dsub/&id=3D56</A><BR ></BLOCKQUOTE>EMF=20
2.4 has integration with JFace's data binding to help with forms=20
support.  And of course GMF already lets you create very sexy =
graphical=20
editors.<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Then a wizard will used this model to =
create the necessary tables in a DB=20
and the client and server application code.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>Martin's  <A=20
href=3D"http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo">http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo</A> =
component=20
is just getting off the ground. And Thiago is ready to commit code to =
kick off=20
the Servus component in the coming week(s):<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A=20
=
href=3D"http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html">http=
://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/emft-dev/msg00126.html</A><BR></BLOCKQUO=
TE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">You could choose between RCP or RAP.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>I've been prototyping RAP and eRCP support<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A =
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D213988"=20
name=3Db213988>213988</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D215378"=20
name=3Db215378>215378</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Other probably involved projects: =
Eclipselink / Teneo, Riena, ...
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>The EclipseLink guys are working with Martin to so =
that=20
Teneo will support EclipseLink...<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">I hope this is the common desire of all =
programmers tired to reinvent the=20
wheel everytime need to write a DB client application.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>Some programmers will never tire from reinventing =
the=20
wheel unfortunately:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A=20
=
href=3D" http://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html">htt=
p://ed-merks.blogspot.com/2008/04/teflon-programming.html</A><BR></BLOCKQ=
UOTE>Fortunately=20
you don't need to be one of them.  The M7 modeling package should =
be=20
available in a week or so:<A=20
href=3D"http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/"><BR></A>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/">http://www.eclipse.or=
g/downloads/packages/</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:fvighi$jmo$1@build.eclipse.org =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Bye

Giovanni=20

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